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From: Richard Brogger <>
Subject: [TMG-L:] Re: TMG-L: Re: -printing from computer input
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 14:59:48 -0500
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Dear Professor,
The instructions for making a tree will work regardless of what you are
printing, the principle is the same.
If you found the cheapest book binder that could make the books, I doubt
the final cost would be much less because those heavy books would have
to be shipped back to you unless the company will mail copies directly
to each recipient. I recommend that you check with local book binders
first.
Others made some very valid points.
If any readers will be elderly, use a larger font.
If you change print drivers, your page format will change.
One way around the problem of changing drivers is to use Adobe Acrobat
Writer. Acrobat Writer is installed like a printer and you simply
select Acrobat when you are ready to print. You can print test copies
from Acrobat on your printer and when ready, print from Acrobat to file
and send the file to the book binder. Acrobat PDF files can be handled
by almost all print shops. A second advantage of Acrobat is that you
can share your work, as electronic files, with people who have different
computers, even libraries.
Have you checked with local libraries? They might prefer to have the
data available on CD. It will save them a lot of room and it will save
you a lot of money. If it is printed to Acrobat, the entire text can be
searched for key words or phrases. If the library patron wants hard
copy, they can print it themselves or take the CD to a book binder or
print shop. Since the text is in PDF, they can not modify what you have
written much easier then they could a book.
The more I consider the advantages of electronic publishing, the more I
think it fits with your needs. The useful life of a CD may not last as
long as a quality book but a CD can be copied and reproduced at a
fraction of the cost of a book. If your data is to receive the widest
possible dissemination, electronic publishing is the answer. It will
also free you from space worries and you can open up your text and make
it more readable. If you want to get fancier, you can insert links to
maps, sound files, or anything else that will fit on the CD.
I have the full Acrobat program and can print "pages" up to 129 inches
square. Try putting a map or chart that size in book. On screen the
user can pan to the part they need or they can find the location using
the find feature. The web site for Adobe is www.Adobe.com if you need
more information.
Richard
Prof Harry J Hirschhorn wrote:
>
> dear Mr. Richard Brogger <>
> Re:printing from computer input
> thank you for your kind reply.
> when I will create a giant family tree, then I shall use your instructions.
> In the meantime, I will use your patience and explain better what I am
> looking for:-
> So far I have written some 46 individual chapters of my family genealogy,
> each about 100 to 200 pages. So far they are in MS Word 97, but I am now
> installing MS Windows 98 with Word 2000. if required by the printing
> company I can change my "printer output" to "POSTSCRIPT". since MS Word does
> this readily.
> there is a company called BoD = Books on Demand in Germany, who will print
> and mail out small numbers of copies. I am thinking of perhaps 20 copies
> for each chapter. Unfortunately they do not have a true A4 format. instead
> they have a format A4 narrow, and they require extra large margins,
> There method would require reduction by 80 %, and to me that seems to make
> my 10 points shrunk down to 8 points, just barely readable. I dont want to
> use them.
>
> My text includes 2 tables that are 18.6 cm wide. My text is written in 10
> point, and I shall be switching it to Times Roman [I am benefitting from the
> advice on the TMG-L web e-mail site.]
>
> Since my HP 4000 laser printer can print on both sides of the paper, I do
> print with mirror margins, on the inside 1.6 cm and on the outside 0.8 cm
> 1.6 + 18.6 + 0.8 = 31 cm wide of the A 4 format.
> top and bottom margins are 1.3 cm and a header and footer.
> I do have a crowded page, but am doing it to have fewer pages.
> what I need is a printing company who will print this chapter at the lowest
> cost
> and still look decent. I fear that I need to pay for the printing myself,
> since few Jewish libraries would order a family genealogy.
> printing directly from the computer floppies should reduce the total cost.
> Now i must find such printers and try one chapter as a trial edition.
>
> I have heard about Barnes & Noble and ned to get their detailed
> requirements.
>
> Please give me your thoughts and advice.
> I am sending this mesage to the whole TMG-L website-e-mail, hoping that
> other persons have done some printing of their own, and can advise me on
> how to reduce costs etc.
> Harry Hirschhorn in Alfe Menashe IL-44851 Israel, researching GANS.
> ----------------------------------
> > <<do you by any chance know of a printer -publisher who will print
> directly from the computer floppies?>>>
> > Almost any printer-publisher can print from floppies. The problem is
> that they must have the software that produced the floppies OR you must
> print to file using the drivers for their printers. Almost any program
> will allow the user to "Print to File". >
> > A parallel situation is having a large family tree produced on a plotter.
> Below are the instructions for doing that. I think you can adapt the
> instructions for any situation but you will need to get
> > printer details from the printer-publisher. In some cases, they may need
> to supply you with the proper drivers to install on your computer. >
> , you can print your tree on a > poster-size piece of paper.
> > 1. Find out what type of plotter they use and then install that plotter's
> printer driver in Windows on your computer. For information about
> installing printer drivers, see your Microsoft Windows User's Guide.
> > 2. Change the settings in the Print Setup dialog box so that they match
> the plotter on which you will print your tree.
> > 3. Create your tree.
> > 4. Put a floppy disk in your disk drive.
> > 5. From the File menu, select Print.
> > 6. Select the Print to file check box.
> > 7. Click OK.
> > 8. Click the Drives drop-down list and select the drive where your floppy
> disk is located, and then in the File name field, type a name for the tree.
> with a three letter extension.
> > 9. Click OK. The program prints your tree to your disk. The service
> bureau does not need a copy of the software to print your tree. They will
> simply copy the file directly to the plotter. For example, if the plotter
> was connected to LPT 1 and your floppy disk was in drive a:\ of their
> computer, they would type > copy /b A:\Mytree.prn LPT1
>
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