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From: John <>
Subject: [TMG] Which source template to use for re-edited book?
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 21:18:46 -0500
In-Reply-To: <200012011556.eB1FuFX09539@lists5.rootsweb.com>


Beth,

The footnote in question, ignoring feelings and making no assumptions,
indicates the Shermans compiled and Wakefield edited (re-edited) the whole
series of volumes that goes under the series name of Mayflower Families
through Five Generations. That plainly misrepresents the facts.

Perhaps the question is why does the footnote indicate this? Generally: 1.
an author's name precedes the title of his/her work; 2. if there is no
author, the editor, translator, or compiler's name with abbreviation ed.,
trans., or comp. precedes the title; 3. if there is author and editor, the
author's name precedes and the editor's name, itself preceded by ed.,
follows the title. Chicago Manual of Style, 14th ed., 15.77, 15.96, 15.97.

The publication you are citing has a title for the whole publication (all
18 volumes) and a unique title for vol. 13. Current American bibliographic
usage calls for using both these titles in the citation. It is then even
more important to follow current usage in placement of author's, editor's,
and compiler's names.

I doubt any acceptable alternative would relegate the volume title and
number to the end of the citation along with the page number.

If we build a custom template for this most peculiar example, it could look
like this:

Footnote: <[AUTHOR], >[ITAL:][TITLE][:ITAL], <[CD1], >[SERIES]<, [VOLUME]>
([PUBLISHER LOCATION]: [PUBLISHER], [PUBLISH DATE]), [CD2].

Bibliography: <[AUTHOR]. >[ITAL:][TITLE][:ITAL]. <[CD1]. >[SERIES]<,
[VOLUME]>. [PUBLISHER LOCATION]: [PUBLISHER], [PUBLISH DATE].

Here:
[TITLE] is volume title (italicized)
[SERIES] is the title of the series (not italicized)
[CD1] is the phrase "edited by . . ."

We would need to edit the resulting [CD1] either in the footnote or
bibliography to lowercase its first letter in the former or capitalize it
in the latter.

Regarding my earlier posting in this topic, in the first example
foot/endnote there is a comma following "vol. 13." Please delete the comma.

Put your best cites forward,
John Crawford

P.S. For those more experienced with the segmented CD's, should CD1 and CD2
be interchanged in the template, in the event that only a page number is
needed?


At 07:56 AM 12/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>
> Thank you for sharing your well thought out approach; I will keep
> your
>post for future reference. I do have a question about part of your memo
>(snippet below);
>
>do you say this foot/endnote form is erroneous because you feel you would
>make that assumption if you didn't know anything about the other books? I
>personally would not make that inference if "Volume 13, Family of William
>White" appeared as part of the title, but I would if it were relegated to
>the CD along with the page reference.
>
>thank you and regards, beth
>
> > The following form is erroneous because it indicates the
> > Shermans compiled
> > and Wakefield edited (re-edited) the whole series of 18 volumes of
> > Mayflower Families through Five Generations.
> >
> > Ruth Wilder Sherman and Robert Moody Sherman, compilers,
> > re-edited by
> > Robert S. Wakefield, Mayflower Families through Five
> > Generations,
> > Descendants of the Pilgrims who landed at Plymouth, Mass.
> > December 1620,
> > Volume 13, Family of William White (Plymouth, Massachusetts,
> > USA: General
> > Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1997), page 13. Hereinafter
> > cited as
> > Mayflower Families through Five Generations, Volume
> > 13, Family
> > of William
> > White.

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