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From: "David S C Wilson" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Monumental Inscriptions etc
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 16:59:38 +0100
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Dear Hugh
Many thanks for your response, just what I was hoping for.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh Wilding" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TMG] Monumental Inscriptions etc


> David Wilson wrote:
>
> > I have recently benn sent some MI's for various relatives and was
> wondering
> > how other people enter a MI that is of some note on a burial TAG.
>
> MIs can be either gravestones or memorials. I adapted the _Cemetery
Marker_
> (one of the Mills source types) to create a _UK Memorial Inscription_
source
> type in the following way:
>
> FF: [NAME OF PERSON] monumental inscription<, [LOCATION]><, [REPOSITORY
> REFERENCE]>, [REPOSITORY], [REPOSITORY ADDRESS]; [READER]<, [DATE]><,
[CD]>.
>
> SF: [NAME OF PERSON] MI, [REPOSITORY], [REPOSITORY ADDRESS]<, [CD]>.
>
> B: [REPOSITORY ADDRESS]. [REPOSITORY]<, [LOCATION]>. Monumental
> inscription.
>
> In truth, I think the aspect that confuses is that a gravestone is its own
> source. The location of burial is the event (tag) and the inscription is
> your informant (source). A number of my burials have more than one source
> e.g. MI, burial register and obituary. I have also used the Burial tag
> where I know there has been no burial i.e a WW1 war death but where I have
> located the serviceman's memorial. If you wish to refer to this as an
> example, then goto <http://website.lineone.net/~hstjw/pers000t.htm>; and
look
> for the entry for John David Thurley (1898-1918) in the descendancy
> narrative. In the first paragraph, the second sentence is generated by
the
> death tag (see also below), the second by the burial tag.
>
> > I would
> > appreciate also some guidance as to how to create a sentence that
involves
> > the possibility of 2 memo's.
>
> As there is only one memo field for each tag, the ability to have two or
> more sections (to a maximum of nine) in the memo gives a great deal of
> flexibility. At its simplest a sentence with two or more memos looks like
> this:
>
> [M1] [M2] [M3]
>
> and the corresponding memo field may look like this:
>
> the mat || sat on || The cat [The _|_ symbol on a UK keyboard is the
> shifted _\_ key to the immediate left of the _Z_ key - two are needed.]
>
> This facility can be useful either for one off sentences or for your own
> custom tags. For example, I have a tag - _Death GRO_ - which I use for
all
> post-1837 deaths registered in England or Wales. The sentence reads:
>
> [P] died< from [M2]> <[D]> <[L]> <aged [M1]>
>
> This compares with the default Death tag construct:
>
> [P] died <[D]> <[L]> <[A]>
>
> Those who are familiar with civil registration in England & Wales may need
> to read no further but, by way of commentary, my use of these tags mirrors
> the normal course of my research. If I receive information about an
> individual which includes death, then I make use of the default Death tag.
> If I am not given that information or I want to check its veracity, I may
> consider buying a copy death certificate. Since to do so almost
inevitably
> means that I must check the GRO Deaths Index.for the correct reference and
> as, in itself, such a check is a useful secondary verification, I
generally
> try to record such references regardless of purchasing intent. GRO
Indexes
> in themselves are not terribly helpful because a very limited amount of
> information is given (e.g. no date of death is ever given) but, for deaths
> between 1866 and 1969, the indexes contain the age at death, given in
whole
> years, as stated in the original registration entry. So armed with this
> data, I then "promote" the _Death_ tag to _Death GRO_ - the reference goes
> in the citation detail and the age in the Memo field. If I obtain a
> certificate subsequently, then I add the cause of death as a second memo
> element.
>
> In the Thurley example above, the Memo field could read:
>
> 18 || his wounds
>
> A further advantage is that Lists can easily be created of those who have
> died post 1837 for whom I have not obtained GRO references - in fact all
the
> usual TMG reporting strengths.
>
> Much too long but I hope it helps.
>
> Hugh Wilding
> Berkshire, England
> <>
>
>

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