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From: Bob Velke <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Inclusive Dates in Date Field - To Bob Velke
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:43:18 -0500
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Tom said:

>I would like a sentence like the following:
>
>"Johan Magnus Larsson is listed in the 1813-19 Långemåla household
>examination in the household of his father Lars Magnus Knutsson Apollo at
>Stenso under Böta, Långemåla, Kalmar, Sweden."

You're confusing the date of an event and the date of a source. The
household examination book is your source and "1813-19" is _its_
date. Based on that, you may or may not be prepared to assert a date of
the event. But it is counter-productive to use the event date field to
record the source date and then say that it produces a misleading event date.

><[R:Son]><[R:Daughter]> is listed in the <[D]> <[L4]> household examination

Here explicitly, you're asking for trouble by calling for the [D] variable
(which is the event date) in a context which says that it is something else
entirely (the date of the examination).

>The above Johan Magnus Larsson was born in 1817; therefore, the sentences
>below using "from/to" and "between/and" dates are incorrect in regards to
>him (or anyone else who was not in the household for the whole time
>period). I called these dates inclusive because the record "includes"
>everything which happened in the household between these years.
>
>"Johan Magnus Larsson is listed from 1813 to 1819 in the Långemåla
>household examination in the household of his father Lars Magnus Knutsson
>Apollo at Stenso under Böta, Långemåla, Kalmar, Sweden."
>
>[This is not correct as Johan was not born until 1817.]

OK, so why do you tell TMG that "1813-19" is the event date when you know
that it is not? If you aren't prepared to estimate a date of the event,
then why do you refer to the [D] variable in the sentence at all?

>As one would write "the 1880 census," I simply would like to write "the
>1813-19 household examination."

OK, so why don't you type that in the sentence field (or output it as a
source citation because that's really what it is)?

-Bob

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