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From: "Jerrod Carter" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Witness and Roles and V5.0
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:19:56 -0500
In-Reply-To: <NIEGKEACAPDMIDCJOGDEOEAODGAA.gleemc@earthlink.net>


I'd sure like to have _any_number_ of principals. We've seen the request for
this on land transactions, censuses and other tags. One of TMG's biggest
competitive advantages is that it doesn't make assumptions about my data.
However, in this case, it does assume that there will only be two principal
actors in any single event. That's simply not true. The witness feature is
fabulous, and I love it and use it extensively. But in some cases it is
simply a workaround for an invalid assumption.

Jerrod

-----Original Message-----
From: Glee Crocker [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:07 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [TMG] Witness and Roles and V5.0


bob gillis wrote :

Theresa, I did not say we NEED to stay with one principal, I said I have
not seen any great desire for more than one principal and believe that
to add more would require a lot of development and programming effort.
<snip>

Bob:
My understanding is that Witness relationships do not transfer in GedCom
files whereas principles do transfer with all of the information. If that
is correct, wouldn't that be a reason to have the capability of having more
than two principles? Maybe I have misunderstood the transfer issue. If I am
incorrect, please correct my misconception.


-----Original Message-----
From: bob gillis [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:03 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Witness and Roles and V5.0

Theresa, I did not say we NEED to stay with one principal, I said I have
not seen any great desire for more than one principal and believe that
to add more would require a lot of development and programming effort.

How many principals would you want? 3, 4 more? Say 4. but some want 6.
Then what?

Say 4. Then all the tag sentences would have to be redone. I think
the two principals came about because there are two principals in a
marriage.

And Theresa, do you use tasks and task lists. I think they are a much
better ways to record what sources you want to look at.

bob gillis

wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/28/02 6:25:42 PM Central Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> > Gene said he wanted witness census lines in _charts_ for research
> > trips. I would think drop or ancestor charts to be very awkward for
> > research use. Yes they are nice to look at and better for family
> > members not especially interested the genealogical details but in the
> > overall picture.
> >
> > Now I wonder if Gene really means a _chart_ or a _report_? He wanted to
> > color code census events. I don't know if that can be done in reports.
> > But witness sentences can be added to reports or reports can be made
> > that show 1880 Census Tags.
> >
> > Having been on this list for many years, I do not remember many requests
> > for more than two principals. Most uses seem to be able to live with 2
> > principals and witnesses especially with the flexibility that roles have
> > given.
> >
> > I would think to change the number of principals would take extensive
> > programming and I do not think there is enough demand to warrant the
> > effort.
> >
> > bob gillis
> >
> >
>
> Bob,
> The original idea was a VCF chart, and it came from me. And yes, I meant
> chart. I have the chart I created in my office, and IF it contained all
the
> census information my database did, it would be invaluable to me when I
went
> on research trips. And I could print it out in book form. I have 16,000+
> individuals in my database, but only about 1000 of those are ancestors of
my
> children. I tend to get lost in all the names, and I could really use
this
> chart. And I only need about 5 generations, since before that, they
aren't
> on the census anyway.
> I just don't understand why we NEED to stay with 2 principals on tags. It
> just doesn't make sense.
> Teresa Ghee Elliott
>
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