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From: "CAROL PETERSON" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Exhibit Log
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 08:16:06 -0600


Thanks Walt!!!! This is what I've been looking for. There is a web page that I ran across some time ago that lists programs and whether they're necessary or not, but I can't find it, and I was too tired last night to go surfing. I wasn't sure about msmsgs or explorer, so I just left them on. But if I can start them later when I need them, that's great.
Carol

----- Original Message -----
From: Walt Flory
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:52 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Exhibit Log

Carol

It still sounds to me like you have a lot running at startup. I would
suggest the following:

1. keep selective startup checked in MSCONFIG
2. remove the check from msmsgs
When you want to use Messenger you can start it, but every chat or IM
program I have used is a resource hog, if you are having problems only run
it when you are using it. (If you start a program at bootup and shut it
down when you need more resources you frequently don't get as many
resources back as you would have had if you hadn't started it.)
3. remove the check from explorer
4. remove the check from anything else that is running that you know
you don't need all the time.

Loadqm isn't needed but it serves a purpose and I don't think it uses much
in the way of resources. I tried not starting it but decided it was ok to
leave it running.

Experiment and see what causes problems for you and what doesn't, and what
helps you and what doesn't.
Make changes one at a time when you don't know what you are unchecking.
Check the resource level when you reboot to see what effect your change had.

If you are playing with MSCONFIG to see what helps, always write down any
changes you make so you'll know what to change back if it causes a problem.
If things get worse, and you don't know what you changed, just recheck all
the boxes and start experimenting all over again slowly.
_____

As far as virtual memory goes, the reason for setting the amount of it is
so that it doesn't get fragmented. If you let Windows handle virtual memory
it does get fragmented.

When I have enough hard disk space available I set virtual memory to a
figure somewhere between the size of my physical memory and two and half
times that. I believe that is what is recommended. Since you have 192 MB of
memory running under ME which will recognize 128 MB, I would set virtual
memory to probably 256 MB. This is probably generous as you really don't
want to do too much swapping but that isn't a lot of hard disk these days.
Might even try 512 MB but I doubt that it would work better than 256 MB.

To set the amount of virtual memory:
1. click on "Start"
2. highlight "Settings"
3. click on "Control Panel"
4. click on "System"
5. click on "Performance"
6. click on "Virtual Memory"
7. click on "Let me specify my own memory"
8. enter the same number for both minimum and maximum (256, for instance)

Walt Flory


<snip>

>A. Opened MSCONFIG, and removed the check from all programs except
>system, msmsgs, explorer, and loadqm.
>B. TMG locked up before it was even open.
>C. I rebooted, and followed Richard's instructions. Removed the checks
>from the list under Selective startup, and rebooted.
>C. TMG did not lock up. Added two images, even viewed them. Closed TMG.
>D. Went back into msconfig and changed to NORMAL boot (I've always used
>selective, because I hate things like QAgent always out there). Rebooted.
>E. I opened TMG, and the exhibit log and everything worked fine, no
>problems. I'm right now at 62% availability on the system (I think that's
>what it said, I'm not sure I remember) and my Close Programs box is
>showing that 33 programs are running. And I can see from my tool bar that
>all that crap is back again. So, what gives? I just opened Sys Prop and
>it says I have 42% free. So perhaps NOW, I won't be able to run the
>exhibit log...

<snip>

>And my virtual memory is 19,836 MB. I had heard once that if I could
>(had enough memory, and now I do) I should up this figure. Perhaps this
>is where the problem is. I know with Win95 I was told NOT to let windows
>figure my virtual memory, but I don't remember what we changed it to.

<snip>

>Carol Peterson



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