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From: "CAROL PETERSON" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Exhibit Log
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 12:59:44 -0600


>>What Robin meant is that TMG does not recognize any file or path (read
directory/folder) name over 8 characters long. So if you have a long file
name (say "Whatzisclopper family.JPG") for an image file, TMG will not
recognize that, but would recognize the older style name (possibly
"Whatzi~1.JPG"). Similarly, this also applies to directory and folder
names. So if you have my example file stored as you indicate above, then
the full path and file name might be:
C:\MY DOCUMENTS\GENEOLOGY\Whatzisclopper family.JPG
but TMG would not recognize the long path or file names and (in TMG) the
entry would have to be something like:
[*] C:\MYDOCU~1\GENEOL~1\Whatzi~1.JPG

So each part of a path and file name has to follow the old DOS file
specifications of a maximum eight characters for the name. The file name
itself is of the 8.3 form in that the name is eight characters followed by
a period followed by the three character file type<<

Okay, I get it. However, that isn't completely accurate, because, as I've said my files are located exactly where I said they are, and I have never had a problem with TMG "not recognizing" them. And I do have other programs that slip in the ~ for the last so many characters in order to shorten the name. This must be what TMG does, but not where I can see it. I don't often have to type in a file name, but this [*] is what I would do. Most programs will let you know immediately if you type in a filename that's too long, and common sense for anyone who's worked with PC for awhile would be to subtract letters and add a ~. My understanding was that you were saying I couldn't use my usual files/folders in TMG because TMG just wouldn't be able to see them. And that isn't correct, obviously, or I have a different version than everyone else. Thanks, I get it.


----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Hoffman
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:40 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Exhibit Log

CAROL PETERSON wrote:
> >>If you meant what you typed "geneology" has 9 letters and you are faced
>with the long filename short filename problem. TMG4 is a 16-bit program and
>it only stores the short filename to a file. Have you recently changed the
>naming of any folders or files or deleted any files from folders in your
>pictures file path. "geneology" will probably be converted to "geneolo~1"
>in the path.<<
>
>Hi Robin -- Okay you misunderstood. Apparently you guys run your PCs
>differently than I do. First of all, it's obvious by how TMG names files
>that it's a 16-bit program. Please read what I wrote: I keep (that
>means, when I scan or download from the internet, I save them) all my
>images related to family in a folder or file called Pictures, under
>another file or folder called Geneology. Where I save them to has nothing
>to do with TMGs old-fashioned way of file naming. This would only be a
>problem with creating and saving new databases in TMG - which isn't a
>problem, because TMG won't let you use more than 8 characters. It
>wouldn't have a problem with the images either, because I use a
>surname/number system like BO0001, BO0002, PE0001, PE0002, etc. Since I
>am not typing out the file names (there's a browser button on the image
>window for selection, rather than typing from memory). I save all my
>files this way (faster backups). All my work is saved under a particular !
>file in MY DOCUMENTS. Including my databases, which are in MY
>DOCUMENTS/GENEOLOGY/<SURNAME>. And I'm not sure, how you think changing
>the name of a folder would have to do with my system locking up when I
>click on the camera button in the toolbar. But my folders have been set
>up this way for about 10 years or so, and I rarely add a new one (I have a
>file XFERFILE for stuff that I'm not sure I'll be keeping).

What Robin meant is that TMG does not recognize any file or path (read
directory/folder) name over 8 characters long. So if you have a long file
name (say "Whatzisclopper family.JPG") for an image file, TMG will not
recognize that, but would recognize the older style name (possibly
"Whatzi~1.JPG"). Similarly, this also applies to directory and folder
names. So if you have my example file stored as you indicate above, then
the full path and file name might be:
C:\MY DOCUMENTS\GENEOLOGY\Whatzisclopper family.JPG
but TMG would not recognize the long path or file names and (in TMG) the
entry would have to be something like:
C:\MYDOCU~1\GENEOL~1\Whatzi~1.JPG

So each part of a path and file name has to follow the old DOS file
specifications of a maximum eight characters for the name. The file name
itself is of the 8.3 form in that the name is eight characters followed by
a period followed by the three character file type

Hope this helps -




>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Robin Lamacraft
>Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:50 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [TMG] Exhibit Log
>
>At 23:35 1/03/02 -0600, Carol wrote:
>
> >2. I don't scan into TMG. or use it in this way. I keep my pictures in a
> >Geneology/Pictures file where they're accessible for whatever I need
> them for.
>
>If you meant what you typed "geneology" has 9 letters and you are faced
>with the long filename short filename problem. TMG4 is a 16-bit program and
>it only stores the short filename to a file. Have you recently changed the
>naming of any folders or files or deleted any files from folders in your
>pictures file path. "geneology" will probably be converted to "geneolo~1"
>in the path.
>
>I hope someone else will add to this comment.
>
>Robin Lamacraft (Adelaide, Australia)
>
>
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