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From: Karen & Ed Stewart <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Subset of data
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 17:11:05 +1000
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Hello Allen,

Not reluctant to use flags - probably just some doubt in my mind (as a TMG beginner) as to the 'best' way to do things. I have today achieved what I
wanted to do - using flags. After getting your suggestions I also looked at some relevant material on the TMG tips sites - including yours; and so better
appreciated the value and potential of using flags.

I guess that I have a small remaining doubt that having set up flags to indicate the relationship to me. or my wife, that I now need to maintain those
flags to ensure that they portray the same data integrity as that in the dataset records themselves.

I guess that maybe there's a place (in some future version of TMG) for having the output of one filter (your 'core' group) held as a temporary subset and
usable as the input to a subsequent filter operation - but then I guess that's just the same as using a temporary flag <g>.

Thanks again for your help,
Kind regards,
Ed Stewart

Allen Mellen wrote:

> Ed Stewart wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the suggestion. I am hoping to be able to do that without
> >needing to create a flag, because I want to be able to do this for 'me and
> >my family'
> >as well as 'my spouse and her family' - and there are clearly some
> >individuals who are in both those sets.
>
> I don't quite understand your reluctance to use a flag -- the main purpose
> here of a flag is to allow you to do in two or more steps what cannot be
> done in a single step. In this case, the main reason for a second step is
> to pick up the non-related spouses. There's no way that using flags
> precludes your doing parallel things for 'you and your family' and for
> 'your spouse and her family.'
>
> >I guess that I'm looking for some way of doing a filter that starts with
> >'me' and includes ancestors back xxx generations, and descendants of those
> >ancestors without duplication forward yyy generations, and also includes
> >any other spouses.
> >
> >Something like the kinship filter, but even that seems to leave out some ....
>
> What do you mean by "the kinship filter?"
>
> As to "a filter that starts with 'me' and includes ancestors back xxx
> generations, and descendants of those
> ancestors without duplication forward yyy generations, and also includes
> any other spouses," that's pretty straight forward to
> accomplish. However, it cannot be done in one pass, because of the way
> filters are defined in TMG. That is, a "core group" is defined, and then
> the spouses, ancestors, and descendants of the people in the "core group"
> can be added.
>
> The "core group" can include you and all of your ancestors (without
> limitation as to number of generations.) If you need to set a limit of
> "xxx" generations, then you must include yourself only in the core group,
> and check the ancestor box at the bottom of the focus tab. If you don't
> need to set a limit of "xxx" generations, you can check the descendants box
> at the bottom at the focus tag. In either case, you need to set a flag
> value in order to save the result of this filter. Because you need that
> flag, this filter must be run in the List of People report, which is the
> only report with "Secondary Output."
> In the simpler case, where you didn't need the "xxx" limitation, you can
> run another filter, using your flag to define the "core group," and
> checking the spouses box at the bottom of the focus tab. Depending on the
> complexity of your data, you could use this filter directly to produce the
> GEDCOM output, or you could use the List of People again.
>
> Allen
>
> Allen Mellen -- New York, NY
> http://www.geocities.com/allenmellen
> http://www.geocities.com/allenmellen/tmg.html
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