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From: "Cheri Casper" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Place of death
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:33:42 -0700
In-Reply-To: <000701c20aa9$e0f61690$60440142@master>


Cliff - Under the Rules of Evidence, family records fall under the
exceptions to the Hearsay Rule and are, therefore, admissible..

"Family Records. Statements of fact concerning personal or family history
contained in family Bibles, genealogies, charts, engravings on rings,
inscriptions on family portraits, tattoos, engravings on urns, crypts, or
tombstones, or the like."

See Fed. R. Evid. 803. All in all, there are 23 exceptions to the Hearsay
Rule.

CheriC



-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Soderback [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:54 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Place of death



>
> > I only record sources that can be verified in
> > public records,
> > why, it does no good to quote a lot of "Aunt Martha's Bible" or Great
> > Grandmothers
> > diary because no one will ever be able to verify this information.
> >
> >
>
> I have to disagree. My grandmother has only one record of her birth. Her
> aunts Bible. I saw it only once in my lifetime and sourced it in TMG. If
I
> had not, and did not pass that information down, no one would have any
proof
> that she was born on that date. Just because a record isn't public
knowledge
> doesn't mean we shouldn't use it. What if you sourced a deed, and then
the
> courthouse burned down, would you remove that source?
> Teresa Ghee Elliott


These same issues came up during the early days of Social Security, many
people
could not prove their age or place of birth.

I suspect that more than one courthouse fire wasn't accidental because all
the
mortgage recordings were lost and some could claim they didn't need to repay
them.

To me, it is a waste of time to source something that no one can verify, in
legal
terms it is hearsay.

Cliff Soderback



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