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From: "Gilbert Blankenship" <>
Subject: OT RE: [TMG] Memory Recommended for TMG 5
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:44:25 -0400
In-Reply-To: <00d501c269b7$a2bca980$5f9ac3d8@mlbailey>


Computer requirements are always a touchy subject. I spent quite a lot
of time acquiring my Microsoft Certified status (MCP, MCP+I and MCSE).
One of the most important things I learned in those classes (and this
was beaten like a dead horse):

1) Minimum operating requirements are just that. The absolute minimum
requirements you need to do thus and so. If Windows Operating System
XXXX states it needs 128Mb of RAM - you might be able to load Microsoft
Windows operating system XXXX with 128Mb of RAM - but don't expect to do
much of anything until you upgrade the memory.

2) If you plan on adding any software to the computer you better add
more memory (i.e. just because you have the minimum amount of RAM for
the operating system - don't think you have enough for a program too.
Rule of thumb, if the operating system says it needs 128Mb of RAM and
your largest program says it needs 128Mb, then plan on having 256Mb
minimum of RAM total).

3) The first solution to any Windows problem (following a reboot) is to
- you guessed it - add more memory.

Seriously - the joke in the class was "when taking a Microsoft exam, if
there is a question dealing with any computer problem - always select
the answer that states Add More Memory"

There is actually some basis in fact for all this humor. The primary
problem is that all installed programs (and hardware) add drivers to
your system (little pieces of special software). When your computer
starts up - it loads ALL of these drivers into memory. The more
programs and hardware you have - the more memory you need. The downside
is that when you uninstall the software, or remove the hardware, these
drivers don't always go away. This is why some computer experts suggest
having multiple hard drives - one for the operating system & software
and another one for your data. Then every so often you re-install your
operating system, the programs that you use. In effect, spring
cleaning. It ensures your OS is loaded properly, clears out any lost
drivers that should be deleted and gets you back and operational.

Personally - with the price of computers continuing to drop it might be
less headache just to buy a new machine. :-(

Sorry for the rant - but hope it helps

Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Bailey [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:02 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Memory Recommended for TMG 5

Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding their
recommendations
for memory (and OS and other factors) to efficiently run TMG 5.
When I first began playing around with TMG 5 I thought it was just a
painfully slow program, and needed the kinks worked out! Everything else
on
my two computers was running fine, including 4.0d, and I hadn't seen
anything posted regarding hardware requirements/recommendations for TMG
5.
I may not need a gig of memory, but the consensus seems to be a MINIMUM
of
256-512, depending upon OS and other factors. It is interesting that
most
new "off the shelf" computers are still coming through with 128-256 MB
RAM
as standard with Windows XP, which even the most conservative answers
rated
marginal.
So while the reports are being finished, I'll be getting my hardware
ready!
I think it's important for TMG to state realistic recommended hardware
requirements in their presentations of what looks like a great program.
(And
it's probably equally important for us to evaluate our own systems
before we
complain about the program!)
Thanks as always,
Mary Lou Bailey

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Lou Bailey" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: [TMG] Memory Recommended for TMG 5


> I'd like to ask some of the folks who are satisfied with the
performance
of TMG 5 how much memory they have installed. I know how much is NOT
enough,
and plan to replace/upgrade my 4 year old Gateway desktop which only has
64K. My laptop is only 2 years old, with 128 K, but is also too slow to
run
the program efficiently.
> I have only the bare necessities in my start-up group, defrag at least
weekly, and keep my temp files cleaned out. Right now it takes 10
minutes to
run a filter in PE on the 64 K machine, and 1+ minute on the 128K
machine
with a 5500 person database.
> Obviously I need more memory....how much are people finding works well
for
them?
> Mary Lou Bailey



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