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Subject: RE: [TMG] 5.07 Age Variable
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:31:43 -0500
In-Reply-To: <004701c33ff7$6d05bb30$6501a8c0@MOM>
Thanks, Bobbie. The as-of dates are actually included in TMG (Tools >
Timeline Manager > USCENSS2). For others who don't know, the census taker
was supposed to record a household based on the people who were living there
on a given date. A person might be dead at the time the enumeration was
actually taken, but still appear on the census as if living since they were
living on the as-of date. I have always chosen to ignore the as-of dates
for purposes of data entry since we have no way of knowing whether the
census taker actually adhered to the as-of dates.
If you see my note to Terry, you'll see I have one of the more complex sets
of roles for census records. As you say, the actual ages often differ from
the enumerated ages. I've tried to construct my role sentences to bring the
differences forefront and center by presenting both real and enum. ages in
one sentence. So far, I'm not having any luck with the "witness" roles.
<VBG>
Linda
-----Original Message-----
From: Bobbie Hall [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:37 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] 5.07 Age Variable
Linda,
You should be able to find a month at least for the enumeration of each
census which would help calculate the age. I expect there is a chart out
there somewhere for all of them, but if you go to Ancestry's page:
http://www.familyhistory.com/index.asp#CENSUS and then click on each year
from that page it will give you the start dates of enumerations for each of
them. Would that help?
Personally, I include the age of enumeration in the memo field of the tag
instead, since many of them are different than the actual (or expected) age,
and this way I know that the data from the census is what is shown in the
tag.
Just my 2 cents.
Bobbie Hall
Chicago
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [TMG] 5.07 Age Variable
> Thanks so much, Terry. I don't like your answer <VBG>, but at least I
> understand it. I was trying to use the age variable for the pre-1850
census
> sentences so, of course, all I have is the year of enumeration. I was
> hoping to output the person's actual age to compare with their enum. age.
> When I change the sentences to AE, the "at an unknown age" is suppressed,
> but I still don't get an age. From this, I gather the age variable only
> works when both dates are precise. Bummer!!!
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Reigel [mailto:]
>
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:27:47 -0500, wrote:
> >Could one or some of you check to see if you can get
> >output from an age variable? I don't seem to be able to
> >generate anything other than "at an unknown age" for
> >anyone, including people whose precise birth dates are
> >known and where the birth dates are verified as primary.
>
> Does the tag with the age variable in the sentence structure have a
> full, that is day month year, date? If not [A] will give the result
> you describe. Try [AE] instead.
>
> Terry Reigel
>
>
>
>
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