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From: "Teresa Ghee Elliott" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Begeman Census - more problems
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:52:20 -0500
In-Reply-To: <3F162782.2010907@austin.rr.com>


Elizabeth,
You could always put the census year in the suffix field like
Carrie
Jones
-1860
Then it wouldn't print, but you could still see it in the name field
(this only works if you have show excluded which I do, but you could put
in the 1860 then select the name then exclude the 1860 and it would
still work)


Teresa Ghee Elliott
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-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth Churchett [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:35 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Begeman Census - more problems

The problem with that is if I have, say, three census name tags and one
Name-Nick tag for someone, and all four tags have the same name (if the
person was named Caroline but was always called Carrie). And maybe I
found Carrie in the 1900 census first, and then the 1870 census, then I
created the nickname tag once I realized I wanted to use that name in
other (non-census) tags and thus didn't want to use the census name
tags, and then I finally found her in the 1880 census. Now, three
months later, when I find another piece of information about her and
want to add her as a witness to her brother's marriage tag, and I want
to use just "Carrie" in the output, how am I supposed to know which
"Carrie" to choose from the drop-down list of names when I have no idea
what order I entered the name tags in all those months ago?

Whew, got that off my chest. Feel free to say that I should ditch the
concept of multiple name tags with the name in each being the same--I
just took it from Teresa as her reasons sounded quite valid for it. But

from recent messages, it sounds as if her name tags are now different
with all the stuff she's putting in the suffix fields (age recorded on
the census, for instance).

Thanks,
Elizabeth

Teresa Ghee Elliott wrote:

>Elizabeth,
> They are listed in the order they are entered (At least I think they
>are) so if you enter a new one, it will be the bottom one on the list.
>If the name tag is already attached to a tag, it doesn't have to be
>reselected. Just make the changes and it will be changed in the other
>tag as well.
>
>Teresa Ghee Elliott
>For examples of TMG sentences <http://www.tmgsentences.home-page.org>;
>Interested in Rutherford County, TN cemeteries?
><http://www.rutherfordcemeteries.home-page.org>;
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Elizabeth Churchett [mailto:]
>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:59 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [TMG] Begeman Census - more problems
>
>Teresa,
>
>I have a question for you (or anyone, really) regarding using multiple
>name tags. I think your idea is a good one to set up a name tag for
>each census; on some of them a closer look has revealed that what I
>thought was "Jessie" was actually "Jesse", or something like that, and
>then it's easy to make that change and know it's reflected in the right

>place.
>
>But, when selecting someone's name to use when in a Tag Entry screen,
>how do you know which name in the drop-down menu goes with which name
>tag? I might have three of the same in a row, and I want to make sure
I
>
>pick the right one (again, so that if I change that name at a later
>date, it changes only in the appropriate place). Are they in the same
>order that they are sorted in the Person View?
>
>It sure would be nice if the name of the Tag appeared next to the name
>output in that drop-down menu on the Tag Entry screen so that I could
>easily, quickly, and with confidence select the right name to use.
>
>Thanks,
>Elizabeth
>Austin, Texas
>
>Teresa Ghee Elliott wrote:
>
>
>
>>I record the name just as it shows or is implied, so I would use
>>Margaret Milbee in this case. UNLESS, you just wanted the first name
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>print in your reports, and then it is best to use Margaret --. Have I
>>confused you more?
>>I have a census name tag for each census year like:
>>1840CEN-Name
>>1850CEN-Name
>>1880CEN-Name
>>That way if I realize later that I read the name on the 1850 census
>>wrong, I can just change the name tag and it will automatically change
>>everywhere that I used that name tag. Some people don't record these
>>(like Terry) but I have found that if you are still in the RESEARCH
>>stage, it can help you to find these people in other county records.
>>For instance:
>>I spent years looking for Joseph Hubbard. I had found him in every
>>year, but the one year that would prove he was a father to my great
>>grandmother's brother. She never lived with her father during a
census
>>year having been born in 1881 and married in 1899, but I had
>>documentation linking her and her brother as siblings, so if I could
>>prove that Joseph was the father of the brother, I could infer (I know
>>there could be other relationships) that he was her father too.
>>Finally found him as Joseph Hibbert. And the son was living with him.
>>So now when looking for deeds and other records for him, I also look
>>under Hibbert. (Oh, and after 5 long years of looking for him, where
>>was he? Living next door to his father-in-law who I had found 5
years
>>earlier.<G>)
>>With that 1910CEN-Name tag staring me in the face on his PV, I don't
>>forget to search for Hibberts.
>>
>>
>>Teresa Ghee Elliott
>>For examples of TMG sentences <http://www.tmgsentences.home-page.org>;
>>Interested in Rutherford County, TN cemeteries?
>><http://www.rutherfordcemeteries.home-page.org>;
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kathleen Perelli [mailto:]
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:09 PM
>>To:
>>Subject: RE: [TMG] Begeman Census - more problems
>>****Would you use just the first name or the first name combined with
>>what is implied to be the last name - based on how a census is
actually
>>taken with the line drawn as long as everyone has the same last name.
>>Milbee, Neil
>> --------- Margaret
>>Your Name-census would now be Margaret Milbee - not just Margaret. Is
>>that correct?
>>
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