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From: "Gregory Winters" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] FTM Import and Footnotes
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:37:05 -0500
In-Reply-To: <1078164767.40437d1f9db75@reigelridge.com>


Thanks for the prompt response, Terry! Much appreciated. I followed your
instructions about the citations: I opened the tag (in most cases, I have
citations attached to the actual name of the individual, not an event) and
double-clicked on the citations. I have two primary problems: 1) the
citations themselves are truncated in the listing box, and 2) the
accompanying text which I had entered into FTM's footnotes section is
missing.

Example: '1830 Federal Population Census, M' (which is the way it reads in
the Citations list window), should actually be '1830 Federal Population
Census, M 19, 201 rolls.' Furthermore, there is specific footnote text for
this individual which should have accompanied the citation which reads:
'1830 Federal Population Census, M19, 201 rolls: roll M19_198, page 254,
image 513. The 1830 census was the first time the government provided
uniform, printed forms specifically to record answers to census questions.
Questions included what age range white males and females fell into, and how
many slaves and colored persons were on one property.' None of this
additional text is present.

I'd like to do a simple text search to see if these footnotes are
*somewhere* within the database, but it seems that TMG's developers have
upsurped the common binoculars button (which means Find in Windows) and
coded it to display a listing of database members - the Find Text option
seems to be always greyed out in any interface I'm in at the time. From
what I see in the Help file, this feature works only in *a* Memo field, not
ALL memo fields at once.

If this is indeed a mapping problem, then I would expect that TMG has stored
these footnotes somewhere in the database file, but I cannot seem to locate
them. If they haven't been mapped, then they have been dropped and I don't
know how to get them in. When I went through the mapping list on Advanced
Import, the FTM Footnotes field was not present.

Is this enough information? Thanks.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Reigel [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 1:13 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] FTM Import and Footnotes

Gregory Winters wrote:

> Greetings to all from a TMG newbie. I've outgrown Family Tree Maker,
> so I've decided to work with TMG.

Welcome to TMG and TMG-L. I made that journey myself a few years back and
understand some of the issues you will have. There are some tips on
importing, with emphasis on on imporint from FTM on my website, at
http://tmg.reigelridge.
com/Importing.htm that may be helpful.


>
> I have used the footnotes feature in FTM extensively for the 3700+
> members of my database. Many of these footnotes include lengthy text
> including anecdotes, obituaries, family lore, etc. When I performed
> an import into TMG (both GEDCOM and driectly from the FTW file), all
> of the footnote
> *references* appear, but when I check the content, only the
> Source/Citation information has come into TMG. None of the text is
> there. Thus, my Endnotes section in my Descendant Narrative report
> includes only Source data (and a zillion Ibid's). Did the footnotes
> import into TMG? If so, where are they and why can't I display them?
> If they didn't, how do I get them in there?

TMG offfers, in concept, similar citation and source capabities as FTM, with
much more flexibility. Your sources and citations should appear in the
imported file just as they were entered in FTM. To see the individual
citations, open any tag that has a source citation (double click on the name
of the tag in the Person view), and click on the "Citations" tab. There you
should see all your citations for that tag - double click on any of them to
open the citation.

To see the sources that are being cited, open the Master Source List, from
the Tools menu. They will all be listed, and again, double click on any of
them to open the source defintion screen for it.

It sounds like you are describing how the notes appear in reports. I'm not
quite clear on what's missing. The Ibids are there because Ibid is turned on
in the report defintion - you can turn if off in Options on the report
definiton screen for the report you are using.

If some of the text from your sources is not appearing, that may be because
of the way the import mapped those sources. All the information should be in
the source when you look at it in the Master Source List, but it may not be
assigned in a way that causes it to appear in the output. If you can give a
couple of specific examples, we can help you straighten it out.

Terry Reigel


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