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From: Terry Reigel <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] FTM Import and Footnotes
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:00:14 -0500
In-Reply-To: <B1006017205@hdflem01.fl.hostdepot.net>
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:37:05 -0500, Gregory Winters wrote:
> Thanks for the prompt response, Terry! Much appreciated.
> I followed your instructions about the citations: I
> opened the tag (in most cases, I have citations attached
> to the actual name of the individual, not an event) and
> double-clicked on the citations. I have two primary
> problems: 1) the citations themselves are truncated in
> the listing box, and 2) the accompanying text which I had
> entered into FTM's footnotes section is missing.
When you say the citations are truncated, you mean at the top of the
Citation screen, next to the source number? That's OK -- what you see
there is just an abbreviation for the source. You have to open the
source in the Master source list to see how it will actually appear.
The abbreviation is just a short cut label -- many users use codes
there to organize their sources -- like Cen 1830 KY Trigg Co. for
example.
If the text you are looking for was for the whole source, you will not
see it in the Citation screen. The text area there is called Citation
Detail, and is for information specific to this citation, for example
page numbers in a book. Depending on how specific you make your census
entries, you might put sheet, household and family numbers there, for
example.
But text that belongs to the source itself, as opposed to the specific
citation, would be in the Source Definition. Open the Master Source
List (Tools menu) then open some of the sources. For text as you
describe, look on the Supplemental tab, in Comments. Or go to the
Output Forms tab, and click on Preview for the full and short
footnotes to see what they will look like when printed. (You will also
see <, [CD]> in preview - that's where the Citation Detail that you
enter in the individual citations gets plugged in.
If this doesn't solve the problem, please get back to us.
Terry
>
> Example: '1830 Federal Population Census, M' (which is
> the way it reads in the Citations list window), should
> actually be '1830 Federal Population Census, M 19, 201
> rolls.' Furthermore, there is specific footnote text for
> this individual which should have accompanied the
> citation which reads: '1830 Federal Population Census,
> M19, 201 rolls: roll M19_198, page 254, image 513. The
> 1830 census was the first time the government provided
> uniform, printed forms specifically to record answers to
> census questions. Questions included what age range white
> males and females fell into, and how many slaves and
> colored persons were on one property.' None of this
> additional text is present.
>
> I'd like to do a simple text search to see if these
> footnotes are *somewhere* within the database, but it
> seems that TMG's developers have upsurped the common
> binoculars button (which means Find in Windows) and coded
> it to display a listing of database members - the Find
> Text option seems to be always greyed out in any
> interface I'm in at the time. From what I see in the
> Help file, this feature works only in *a* Memo field, not
> ALL memo fields at once.
>
> If this is indeed a mapping problem, then I would expect
> that TMG has stored these footnotes somewhere in the
> database file, but I cannot seem to locate them. If they
> haven't been mapped, then they have been dropped and I
> don't know how to get them in. When I went through the
> mapping list on Advanced Import, the FTM Footnotes field
> was not present.
>
> Is this enough information? Thanks.
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