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From: "John Cardinal" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Two word last names
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:12:06 -0500
In-Reply-To: <002701c40235$e25acbe0$230110ac@TANARI>


tanari wrote:
> > 1) Did you transfer from FTM to TMG using GEDCOM or GenBridge?
> Genbridge
>
> > 2) Were the "Van Hoosan" surnames in the surname field of FTM?
> Yes they were in the surname field.
> >
> > 3) How are the names stored in TMG, specifically, where is "Van"
> and where is
> > "Hoosan"? The answer to those two questions should be one of the
> name subfields
> > like "PreSurname field" or "Surname field". The "Van" could be in
> the Given name
> > subfield if it was taken for a middle name somehow.
> ABRAHAM VAN HOESEN VAN in the Given Name field and HOOSAN in the
> surname field.
>
> > 4) When you asked how to get the names to appear properly in the
> index, were you
> > referring to an index produced by a report, or were you referring to the
> > Picklist, or to the Project Explorer?
> Picklist but maybe elsewhere just noticed it there.

Tiffany,

TMG Utility 5 has a "Change Name Parts" feature that can be used to move "van"
from the Given name to the Surname. I am a little uncomfortable suggesting that
course of action, however, as I don't understand why GenBridge would produce the
results you described. I've never used FTM. Perhaps a more experienced ex-FTM
person will pipe in.

Anyway, if you want to use "Change Name Parts" to move "van" from the end of the
given name to the start of the surname, here are the rules you need:

If GivenName ends with " van"
Change GivenName delete prefix " van"
And Change Surname prepend "Van "
And Change SortGiven copy GivenName
And Change SortSurname copy Surname

Please take note that the various versions of van--leading space, trailing
space, uppercase V--are important. When you input the rules above, you don't
enter the quotes, but you do have to enter the leading and trailing spaces. Read
about the Change Name Parts feature and how you set rules on the help page for
that feature:

http://www.johncardinal.com/tmgutil/changenameparts.htm

This is one of the more complicated features in TMG Utility 5. Make sure you set
the "Log Only" checkbox until you are sure that you have entered the rules
properly and you are satisfied with the results. (When Log Only is checked, the
program will not change your dataset, but it will produce a log of what will be
changed if it had performed the steps for real.)

John

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