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From: Elizabeth Churchett <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Seeking confirmation of place style/MPL understanding
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:58:37 -0600
References: <002401c417dd$aca67d60$6401a8c0@GatewayLaptop> <009201c417e7$3b43cd80$640aa8c0@columbus.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <009201c417e7$3b43cd80$640aa8c0@columbus.rr.com>


Thanks, Jill, for your reply and affirmation that I am finally getting
my head around this!

I very well may be making this harder than it has to be, which is why
I'm trying to be very careful and methodical about setting this up and
walking through it all before implementing it in TMG. The reason I'm
going after this is to incorporate appropriate wording in the place
style itself--using "at" or "in" for *all* places just doesn't work to
my satisfaction. Using exclusion markers can get me to the point of
which elements are output, which works just fine, but they still don't
address the issues of the lead-in to the place information in the sentence.

The reason I thought I should start getting into the habit of using F2
to enter places was that I don't want to accidentally change a place
style, since TMG gives no warning that such a thing has been done.

--Elizabeth

OT: And ta for asking about the baby. Only about another month away!

Jill Morelli wrote:

>Elizabeth, Laurie and others,
>
>Yes, the filter will pick up either Syracuse or -Syracuse if you use
>"contains" as in Any event/Any place/Contains. And I, personally, would
>handle it the same way Laurie suggests, with exclusion marks.
>
>However, Elizabeth, if you are set in having Place Styles handling this, I'm
>not sure you aren't making it harder than it is....but I also think you
>should declare victory over place styles!
>
>Make your two place styles like you have suggested.
>when entering the information at the tag level, enter it all...cem, city,
>state, yada yada.
>Pick the "right" place style for the situation at the top of the tag entry
>box
>
>You're done. And it appears that you "get it" to me.
>
>but, that's all you do.
>
>As far as going back to the MPL to pick a place....I just retype or use F3
>and clean up the MPL later.
>
>(See your statement below.) I do not go into MPL and "create"
>anything.....it just collects the information as I enter the data. The
>Master Place list would have one fewer row of information in it if you used
>place styles instead of the exclusion marker technique. This is because the
>data for the exclusion mark technique would have 1.) with exclusion markers
>and 2.) without while with using place styles it would only have 2.)
>without.
>
>And finally, the place style IS attached to the individual's burial tag. so
>if I change one person's burial tag to only the cemetery name....no others
>are changed. I can change it back to something else...and it doesn't affect
>anything else. Place styles just direct the sentence in how to handle the
>[L] variable......so it substitutes your "rule" rather than US Standard
>Place, which is TMG's "rule".
>
>< snip>
>"....And then, after doing that, I'd need to create two identical records in
>the MPL--except that one of them would have some distinguishing entry in
>an unused field to differentiate it from the other. Then one entry
>would be assigned the CemeteryNameOnly Place Style, and the other would
>be assigned the CemeteryFullLocn Place Style. This is because the place
>style is attached to the MPL entry and not to an individual Tag. When I
>entered a location in a Burial Tag, I'd be best advised to use F2 to
>select from the MPL to make sure I get the one with the desired place
>style."
>
>That's my understanding of how this works but I am a new convert to Place
>Styles and may not have all the nuances.
>
>And Laurie's right....is anyone else having very little mail come through?
>We must all be very busy doing other things. Good luck, Elizabeth. Keep us
>posted on the baby.
>
>Jill
>
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