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From: "Jill Morelli" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Seeking confirmation of place style/MPL understanding
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:09:45 -0500
References: <002401c417dd$aca67d60$6401a8c0@GatewayLaptop> <009201c417e7$3b43cd80$640aa8c0@columbus.rr.com> <406E285D.9050302@austin.rr.com>


I, too, use place styles for the type of preposition in front of the
location. That's all I use them for.

have a good weekend.

Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Churchett" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TMG] Seeking confirmation of place style/MPL understanding


> Thanks, Jill, for your reply and affirmation that I am finally getting
> my head around this!
>
> I very well may be making this harder than it has to be, which is why
> I'm trying to be very careful and methodical about setting this up and
> walking through it all before implementing it in TMG. The reason I'm
> going after this is to incorporate appropriate wording in the place
> style itself--using "at" or "in" for *all* places just doesn't work to
> my satisfaction. Using exclusion markers can get me to the point of
> which elements are output, which works just fine, but they still don't
> address the issues of the lead-in to the place information in the
sentence.
>
> The reason I thought I should start getting into the habit of using F2
> to enter places was that I don't want to accidentally change a place
> style, since TMG gives no warning that such a thing has been done.
>
> --Elizabeth
>
> OT: And ta for asking about the baby. Only about another month away!
>
> Jill Morelli wrote:
>
> >Elizabeth, Laurie and others,
> >
> >Yes, the filter will pick up either Syracuse or -Syracuse if you use
> >"contains" as in Any event/Any place/Contains. And I, personally, would
> >handle it the same way Laurie suggests, with exclusion marks.
> >
> >However, Elizabeth, if you are set in having Place Styles handling this,
I'm
> >not sure you aren't making it harder than it is....but I also think you
> >should declare victory over place styles!
> >
> >Make your two place styles like you have suggested.
> >when entering the information at the tag level, enter it all...cem, city,
> >state, yada yada.
> >Pick the "right" place style for the situation at the top of the tag
entry
> >box
> >
> >You're done. And it appears that you "get it" to me.
> >
> >but, that's all you do.
> >
> >As far as going back to the MPL to pick a place....I just retype or use
F3
> >and clean up the MPL later.
> >
> >(See your statement below.) I do not go into MPL and "create"
> >anything.....it just collects the information as I enter the data. The
> >Master Place list would have one fewer row of information in it if you
used
> >place styles instead of the exclusion marker technique. This is because
the
> >data for the exclusion mark technique would have 1.) with exclusion
markers
> >and 2.) without while with using place styles it would only have 2.)
> >without.
> >
> >And finally, the place style IS attached to the individual's burial tag.
so
> >if I change one person's burial tag to only the cemetery name....no
others
> >are changed. I can change it back to something else...and it doesn't
affect
> >anything else. Place styles just direct the sentence in how to handle
the
> >[L] variable......so it substitutes your "rule" rather than US Standard
> >Place, which is TMG's "rule".
> >
> >< snip>
> >"....And then, after doing that, I'd need to create two identical records
in
> >the MPL--except that one of them would have some distinguishing entry in
> >an unused field to differentiate it from the other. Then one entry
> >would be assigned the CemeteryNameOnly Place Style, and the other would
> >be assigned the CemeteryFullLocn Place Style. This is because the place
> >style is attached to the MPL entry and not to an individual Tag. When I
> >entered a location in a Burial Tag, I'd be best advised to use F2 to
> >select from the MPL to make sure I get the one with the desired place
> >style."
> >
> >That's my understanding of how this works but I am a new convert to Place
> >Styles and may not have all the nuances.
> >
> >And Laurie's right....is anyone else having very little mail come
through?
> >We must all be very busy doing other things. Good luck, Elizabeth. Keep
us
> >posted on the baby.
> >
> >Jill
> >
> >
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