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From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Spouses even though no marriage shown?
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:51:27 +0100
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In message of 2 Jul, "Jim Byram" <> wrote:

(Thanks for looking into this.)

> Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:
>
> > In Generations it is possible to inspect the Marriage Status flag by
> > running a report either on individuals or on couples. For these blank
> > marriages with no marriage place or date and no children, nevertheless
> > the Marriage Status is set to "Marriage".
> >
> > My conclusion is that Gen Bridge is in fact not correctly (or at all?)
> > picking up the value to the Marriage Status flag from Generations.
>
> I did extensive testing with this when the Married flag came up some
> time ago.
>
> The Married flag was added rather late in Generations development.

Can't check that as I have and use version 8.5a, though I did start with
Reunion 4.2.

> What I found is that the Married flag was not updated globally for
> pre-existing data. The Married flag is only set for new entries to
> Family cards or if the Edit Family screened is opened for an existing
> couple.
>
> To demonstrate that, I opened an older Generations database in Gen8 to
> update to Gen8. I then imported to TMG. A couple with no marriage
> data was not imported.
>
> I then opened and immediately closed the Edit Family screen for that
> couple in Generations. When the screen was displayed, I could see
> that the Married flag was set. I imported again to TMG. This time the
> couple was imported.
>
> That shows that the Married flag is set on opening the Edit Family
> screen for pre-existing couples and once the flag is set, TMG will
> import the couples.

My mileage varies...

I have checked on my current Generations file. The only cases where the
marriage flag is unset is where the "couple" consists of one person
only, with or without children. I would not expect them to show up as
a Marriage in TMG and they don't.

But for the couples with two people, all the marriage flags are set.
This can be seen by running a report for couples in the "Find Anything"
window. Then when the couples are shown, select that one of the three
columns shows their Marriage Status. The setting may be any of
"Marriage", "Unmarried", "Divorced", etc. None of the marriage flags
are unset. If there is no marriage data, such as date, place or
citation, then they are not imported as a marriage into TMG, or at
least not into my version of TMG 5.14. I have run the import twice to
make sure of things. My firm conclusion is that (my) TMG ignores
marriage flag settings of "Marriage" when there is no other marriage
information.

So I am perplexed at your experience that such couples are imported as
married.

> I could not find any way to globally update the Married flag for all
> couples on Family Cards. I made several inquiries about this issue
> and received no responses. If you know how to accomplish this, please
> share the method.

I know of no such method either. The only way to set the marriage flag
that I know of is to do this for each couple individually. But then my
experience is that for all of them, my errors apart, the Marriage Flag
is set correctly.

Mind you Generations does have two (visible accesses to) Marriage flags:
one can be found in reports for individuals, where it gives the Marriage
status for the Preferred Marriage. The other is in reports for couples
where it can be shown and reveals the status of each couple. I wonder
if this might have anything to do with the problem I have found?

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe
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