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From: Terry Reigel <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Fw: Data Set Manager and Focus Group
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:51:11 -0400
In-Reply-To: <009701c4605e$08fce400$4802a8c0@Belkin>


On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:57:26 -0400, Brent Morgan wrote:

> Hello TMG Listers: I created a focus group within a
> project of nearly 3000 people. There are 1260 people in
> the focus group.
>
> 1. Is there a way to start with the first person in the
> focus group and create a Journal report? If I don't have
> him checked then the report I get is a individual journal
> for everybody in the whole project. If I start with
> person #6 (my focus person) checked then focus group is
> no longer an option and I get a journal report on the
> entire project.

I don't understand what the purpose of the Focus group is here.
Journals start with a "focus person" and then include all the
ancestors or descendants for the number of generations set in Options.
There are some controls in Options for whether some individuals are
included.

Are you trying to use the Focus group to only include certain people
in a way you cannot do with the Options? If so, you can't do that
directly with the Journal report - it uses the Focus Group to define
the "focus person," that is the starting point of the report. If there
is more than one person in the focus group, you actually get multiple
reports, each starting with one of the persons in the Focus group (but
people are not repeated - if they appear in a previous listing the
report does not continue.)

> 2. Thinking that a good way around this is to put this
> focus group into a separate data set within the same
> project. I'm not to sure how to accomplish this and
> could use some 1,2,3 step type guidance.

Sounds like you want to use the FG to exclude certain people from the
Journal that would otherwise be included if you use the regular
Journal Options. If so, you are on the right track. Add all the people
you want to be in the report to the FG. Then use the List of People
report, telling it to use the FG as the "subject(s)" of the report.
Under Options, go to the Secondary Output tab, and check Create New
Project. Enter the name of the new Project, then run the report. When
you close the actual report, the program will ask you to confirm that
you want to create the new Project - allow it to do so. When it's
done, use File > Open Project to open the new Project. Run your
Journal from that Project, and it will exclude any people who were not
in the FG.

> 3. I thought that Import might work to get the focus
> group into a new dataset. TMG 5.0 is not an option as an
> import file type.

No, Import is only for importing from previous versions of TMG, or
from other programs. To work with TMG 5 Projects you use the other
commands on the File menu, such as Open, Delete, Copy, or Rename, or
use the Secondary Output of the List of People report. You may want to
use File > Delete to get rid of the temporary Project you create for
the report after you are done with it.

Terry Reigel



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