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From: "Kevin Sholder" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] ins, ats and ons
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:36:18 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20050201202551.68552.qmail@web81306.mail.yahoo.com>


Kathy / Larry,

Yes, just the "glimmer" of hope is enough to let me wait a while longer. It
obviously hasn't been a big issue for me yet, but I've been mulling this
over a while now.

Thank you for your time,
Kevin L. Sholder

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Mccurdy [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:26 PM
To:
Subject: RE: [TMG] ins, ats and ons

As has been stated, the use of roles is an answer to a prepresition; we have
used it, and it works. But, as John Cardinal stated, in our last TMG chat
session, where this was discussed, it can get quite messy and we agree. Bob
Velke told us in the chat that he is working on this particular issue.
Unless you need an immedidate solution, you might wait for Bob's solution.
Hope this helps.
Kathy & Larry
--- Kevin Sholder <> wrote:

> Jill,
>
> Place style or role?
>
> I use place styles for specific events, where there is only one
> location.
> But would consider the role at the tag level for the same place used
> in different ways.
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Kevin L. Sholder
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jill Morelli [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:16 AM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [TMG] ins, ats and ons
>
> Kevin,
>
> I have one that is "located at". I use this primarily for my burial
> tag, but I have used it on other occasions as well. I was happy when
> TMG allowed me to revise the name to be more generic than "cemetery"
> to Loc-at.
>
> John Smith is buried in Evergreen Cemetery, located at Britt, Iowa.
>
> It helps to break up the sentence structure of TMG and makes the
> narrative sound less "canned."
>
> Jill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sholder [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:39 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [TMG] ins, ats and ons
>
> Dale,
>
> I've also struggled with this. Place styles do not help here. But in
> reading your e-mail gave me a thought. You (we) could create custom
> roles for each tag that we want to have a different preposition for in
> that tag.
>
> So for the birth tag:
>
> DEFAULT SENTENCE - [P] was born <[D]> <[L]> IN - [P] was born <[D]>
> <in [L]> AT - [P] was born <[D]> <at [L]> ON - [P] was born <[D]> <on
> [L]>
>
> This would keep a single place style (U.S. Standard Place).
> The prepositions you want based on how you want it to read.
>
> Any other thoughts or opinions??
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Kevin L. Sholder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:00 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [TMG] ins, ats and ons
>
> Someone like Lee Hoffman ought to be able to answer this one. I have
> lots of, say, birth info but it could be deaths, marriages or other
> events. In some cases I have year of birth; say 1923, in others I have
> an exact date, say 15 Feb 1923 (happens to be mine). I want the
> sentence to read: Joe was born IN 1923, when I only know the year
> but ON 15 Feb 1923 when I have the date. The same holds for places. He
> died IN Minnesota and he also died IN Minneapolis, but he died AT 39
> Front St, ST Paul.
> Firstly I presume there is
> no way to make TMG recognize the date or place form and apply the
> right preposition. Given that is not possible is there a way to sort
> of generically construct a sentence to read the way I want it to,
> other than manually entering the correct preposition for every
> situation.-Dale
>
>
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