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From: "Richard Damon" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Wishlist for Exhibit Log
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:26:19 -0400
In-Reply-To: <43023B050103FD04@smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au> (added by postmaster@iprimus.com.au)


Astrid, perhaps you missed the last sentence where I commented on the
possibility of using variables to make a usage by usage variation.

I will repeat that I believe that the caption and description needs to be in
the Master Exhibit record and not the Exhibit link. I say this because one
of the major motivations for a Master Exhibit List is the person who has
many people attached to a single exhibit with identical information, and the
desire that one be able to edit in one place and be reflected everywhere. If
you do this the all identical can have his needs meet and if you want
distinct fields you haven't lost anything as you can still make multiple
exhibits like you currently do.

If you now add more information to the Master Exhibit record you get back to
the problem of duplicated information.

That goes back to my last statement, the adding of variables to the
caption/description. If the exhibit link as a memo field, then you could
make the caption something like: Graduation photo of [EM1], class of 1920
Mudville High School. ([EM2]).

(Where EM1 is the first part of the memo field of the exhibit link, etc.
Maybe EM1 could be replaced with [W] if this exhibit would always be
connected to a tag/person.

With Exhibit Link Memos I think it would meet the needs of both groups.

Richard Damon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Astrid Kranzbuhler [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 2:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [TMG] Wishlist for Exhibit Log
>
> Hi Darrell,
>
> that sounds like a proposal I could nearly live with <G>
>
> But if you've seen e.g. Richard's response - in comes again the discussion
> of which fields should be entered with the master exhibit and which with
> the
> 'link' - I, personally, would certainly be unhappy if Topic, Reference and
> Caption were to be part of the master exhibit - simply because of how I'm
> using those fields - if combined with your proposal below that would mean
> a
> lot more data entry for me than it is now since I'd have to create
> multiple
> master exhibits to keep my 'organisation' - if those fields would 'stay'
> with the links, I'd be a happy puppy :-)
>
> NB: Somehow I do not believe that it would even be considered as a
> wishlist
> item by Bob unless us mere users can come to some kind of general
> consensus
> of what we really want <G>
>
> And I fully agree that I'd much prefer seeing place handling changed
> first,
> BTW - and maybe even translation facilities for source Output one day (I
> know - "nag, nag" <G>)
>
> And that's my last of 2 cents on this topic <G>
> Astrid
>
> > Hi, Astrid:
> >
> > I think that a "full blown" solution to exhibit handling will
> > be as flexible as source handling is now. That is, there will
> > be certain hardcoded fields, but the user will control many
> > of the details.
> >
> > For me, in the short term: I think the important thing is to
> > create one or more fields that contain a description of the
> > exhibit _per_se_. This field/these fields should be linked
> > only to the exhibit and not a Tag or person.
> >
> > In more detail, I eventually see a "Master Exhibit List" with
> > **something like** the following fields:
> >
> > Record number (TMG internal use only - links based on this)
> > Path to file (for external exhibits; unique!)
> > Path to image map (for external exhibits only???)
> > User reference
> > Title
> > Description
> > Date
> > Sort date
> > Place created
> > Creator/Author/Artist
> > Repository (MPL)
> >
> > I think these are all pretty straightforward, with the
> > possible exception of the "Path to image map" item. This is
> > for creating clickable areas in the image in HTML (say "Second Site").
> >
> > The Exhibit Log would then link to the Exhibit Record number.
> >
> > Frankly, I would much rather see a rewrite of place handling
> > than a rewrite of exhibit handling. Still, something along
> > the above lines for exhibits would be very nice indeed; and
> > *both* would be most excellent, no doubt.
> >
> > Darrell
>
>
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