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From: "M.V. Gibson" <>
Subject: Re: [WEBB] Mystery of the 2 Augustine Webbs & Sylvester Webb
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 00:50:33 -0400
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The origin of the name Sylvester Webb in Virginia is also a mystery. He
must be named for someone with that surname or a given name. Similar to the
Augustine Webb question.

There were several Sylvester Webb's in the late 1700's and early 1800's.
Mine was born and died in Virginia.

Any clues out there?
Mary
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Subject: [WEBB] Mystery of the 2 Augustine Webbs


>
> Hi Webbsters - Since the list has been so active lately I thought it might
be
> a good time to once again try to solve the mystery of the two Augustine
> Webbs. The history of the lives of the two Augustine's has gotten so
intertwined
> that it seems nearly impossible to straighten them out. I could sure use
some
> help.
>
> Augustine1 (my ancestor & possibly the son of Julius Webb who was born in
> Spottsylvania VA) served two enlistments during the Rev War. The first
> enlistment in 1775/76 at Albermarle Co., and the second in 1781 at
Botetourt Co. He
> stated in his pension application dated 1832 that he was born in 1755 in
Hanover
> VA. He said he left VA in 1782 and settled in Fayette Co. KY, then Clark
Co,
> Shelby Co, and finally Bullitt Co. KY. Land records dated 8 July 1788
show he
> and first wife Elizabeth? sold land in Botetourt Co. He and Elizabeth had
4
> children, William, Jonathan, Mary(Molly) and Sarah(Sally). He and his
> surviving children and grandchildren by Elizabeth are named in son
William's will in
> Shelby Co. KY dated about 1817. Augustine1 married a second time to
Frances Ann
> "Franky" Clarke (my ggggrandmother) in 1807 in Shelby Co. KY. He and
Franky
> had several children: Frances Ann and Elizabeth, and possibly Benjamin and
> George Washington. Augustine1 died in 1835 in Bullitt Co. KY, and Fanny,
> Benjamin and George W. Webb were among those who purchased items from
Augustine1's
> estate sale in Bullitt County KY.
>
> Augustine2 was born in Orange Co. VA in 1863, son of William Crittendon
Webb
> (also born in Spottsylvania VA) and Jane Vivion. He married Lucy
Crittenden
> (a cousin?) in Culpepper Co. VA in 1788 and went on to have a number of
> children all born in VA, some well into the 1800s. According to his
father's will,
> Augustine2, inherited the family plantation, and apparently lived out his
> life with Lucy in Orange County where he is buried.
>
> These are some of the questions I have concerning the two Augustines.
>
> 1. Who were they named for? Traditionally children back then were named
> after ptjer family members but so far I haven't found an earlier Augustine
that
> either was related to.
>
> 2. Why don't either of them have middle names or initials? If
Augustine1's
> father is Julius (who didn't have a middle initial either) that would
explain
> it. But why didn't Augustine2, have a middle name? It appears that most
if
> not all of William and Jane's children had the middle name of Vivion. Why
> would this son and heir be the only one without a middle name or initial.
Nowhere,
> no time:)
>
> 3. How are the two Augustines connected? There must surely be a
connection
> since some names, such as Millian (which doesn't seem to be too common)
shows
> up in both Augustines' lines. I believe both Augustine's named their
first
> sons William. Also, both Julius and William Cr. Webb were born in
> Spottsylvania, and owned property in Albemarle and Botetourt Counties,
etc. in VA. And
> William C.Webb owned land and paid taxes in the same counties where
Augustine1
> owned land and paid taxes.
>
> If you check the gedcoms for Augustine Webb at Ancestry.com you can see
just
> how mixed up the two are. Some people show Augustine1 married to Lucy
> Crittenden, but list Elizabeth's children. Some show Augustine2 married
to Frances
> Clarke and list Augustine1 and Elizabeth's children. Augustine1's Rev War
> record is shown for Augustine2, etc., etc., etc. Even an early VA history
book
> said that Augustine2 moved to KYwith his grown children in the late 1700s,
when
> he and Lucy only got married in 1788. How many grown children could they
have
> by the late 1700s? And if Augustine and Lucy were living in KY how were
all
> their children born in VA?
>
> I'd love to hear from anybodyelse who is trying to solve this mystery.
Pat
> in Ohio
>
> P.S. There was another Augustine Webb who married Caroline Pleasants in
> Henrico Co. VA in the late 1700s also. It seems quite possible he is also
> connected.
>
>
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