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Subject: [WEST-L] RUFUS and JAMES
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 17:03:16 -0800

Can anybody help us out here? <smiling>

(the following is quoted from conversation in reverse chronological order,
I spose it'll make more sense reading from the bottom up):

Okay, Steph. I'll post some of this around myself. I think we could use
some help in the area of Utah Census to maybe establish Rufus and Jim as
siblings living in the same household (or eliminate the possibility if they
are found living elsewhere - Rufus is an uncommon name and may be easy to
find), also you have very good info on Leona and Rufus's other wives, maybe
someone who knows more about this business than we do can help..

Also, my Jim was married to a "Jane Doe" Stipe, all the sibling's death
records indicate Stipe as mother's maiden name. There's got to be an
online record of this marriage (or her subsequent passing somewhere).

>From: "Steph" <>
>To: <>
>
>I just don't know where to look anymore. I will keep e-mailing people and
>maybe I can find someone that has heard of them. You could be right. Maybe
>we can find something on that info.
>
>From: <>
>To: "Steph" <>
>>
>> I found today a James H. West who fits exactly the description as to age,
>> date of death, and place of death. I also found an absence of any James
>D.
>> West fitting the above description in the Calif Death Records database.
>> And I'm certain as to the general date and exact place, because I was
>> there. So that means that I may have had Grandpa Jim's middle name wrong
>> all along. I know for sure that Uncle Jim was James Dixon West, and
>> everybody called him Junior. However, I'm unable to find any official
>> record that reflects his name as James Dixon West Jr.. So, his dad may
>> very well be James H..
>>
>> James H. West
>> 566-54-1917
>> Last Residence - Palm Desert, Riverside Co., CA
>> B - 30 Nov 1896
>> D - nn Sep 1966
>> Birthplace - UTAH
>> Mother's Maiden - HUNTER
>>
>> Palm Desert is on the outskirts of Palm Springs, and only 30 min from
>where
>> his last residence was, a little desert outpost called Joshua Tree.
>> Knowing that he had had a couple of minor heart attacks prior to the big
>> one, and was sick for a few months, it's entirely feasible that they had
>> him in a convalescent home closer to the only hospital in the area, which
>> was in Palm Springs. If indeed he was Rufus's brother, then there's a new
>> name to search out, as well as a birthplace. A longshot for both of us,
>> but he's the only James West in the Calif Death Records who was the right
>> age at the right time in the absolutely right place. Hope this helps, or
>> at least we can find a way to eliminate him. But for me, that'll mean
>that
>> the Calif Death Records Index is missing a complete record for some
>reason.
>> This is as far as I took it, I'll resume searching tonite. Keep in
>touch,
>> okay?
>>
>> At 10:57 AM 1/1/01 -0600, Steph wrote:
>> >No, that is where I am stuck. Rufus was born in 1878 and died in 1962.
>The
>> >only reason I know that is because my dad told me where he thought he was
>> >born and we went and looked and found his head stone. He also told me he
>> >thought they were cousins to a Ray Fortson that lived in Colorado. Some
>of
>> >the family had went and worked for him.

>> >From: <>
>> >To: "Steph" <>
>> >>
>> >> For Grandpa Jim I have no dates yet. He died in or around 1965, and
>was
>> >in
>> >> his sixties or seventies. I was a child (I'm 48 now). Uncle Jim was
>born
>> >> in May 1926 (in OK), died in Jan 1986. Uncle Jim was one of 6 (known)
>> >> children to Grandpa Jim. My Aunt Margie was born in May 1917 (in MO).
>I
>> >> am unsure if she was the oldest child. A woman named Stipes is the
>mother
>> >> of the six kids, the only further I have on her is that she died of
>> >stomach
>> >> cancer when my mother was a young girl. My mother (Doris) was born in
>Aug
>> >> 1928 (in MO), so her mom's death would've been mid-to-late 1930's or
>early
>> >> 1940's. One point that is interesting is that my mom spoke often of an
>> >> Aunt Leona and also a Rufus. Up until now it never dawned on me that
>> >Rufus
>> >> was a person's name. There is possibly one of the six still living, I
>> >will
>> >> find out more today, I am certain. Also, one of the six was a younger
>> >> brother to my Uncle Jim. His name is/was John Howard West. No dates
>on
>> >> him yet, but his name I am certain of. Do you have a mother/father
>name
>> >> for Jim and Rufus?
>> >>
>> >> At 12:26 AM 1/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >In what years were they born?
>> >> >
>> >> >From: <>
>> >> >To: "Steph" <>
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes. Granpa Jim (James Dixon West) and Uncle Jim (James Dixon West
>> >Jr.).
>> >> >> Granpa Jim was widowed and had remarried. He had been in OK (Jr.
>was
>> >born
>> >> >> in OK), then MO, then came to CA. Died in approx 1965. I was
>there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At 10:58 AM 12/31/00 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >> >The only other thing is when Leona died around 1923 Jim came back
>to
>> >> >> >Arkansas to try and get Rufus to move there with him. Rufus
>wouldn't
>> >go
>> >> >and
>> >> >> >I don't know what happened to him after that. Do you have a Jim?
>> >> >> >From: <>
>> >> >> >To: <>; "Steph" <>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Do you have any further on brother Jim who went to Oklahoma?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >From: "Steph" <>
>> >> >> >> >To:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Looking for info on Rufus West born 1878, died 1962, and buried
>in
>> >> >> >Ballews
>> >> >> >> Cemetary, Grubbs, Jackson Co, Arkansas. He married Leona Howard,
>> >Della
>> >> >> >> VanHorn, and Elizabeth (Lizzie) Gowers. He had a brother Jim
>that
>> >> >moved
>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> Oklahoma
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