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From: bob wise <>
Subject: Re: [WISE] Ancestors of John Wise, I [Jr.], Colonel (1617-1695), The VA Immigrant
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:10:47 -0700
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Bravo! Well said and done. Let's hope it's done. Now, I can't wait to see
if you have something on Johannes descendants in Maryland and then reversed
track that ended up in N.C., Jones and Onslow counties in particular, and
perhaps Catarret. I thought the Wises in Wayne Co N.C. were the ones who
went to Ga, but don't know their origins. But really, I sure hope you have
something on those along the White Oak River in N.C. - bob

John F Wise wrote:

> Reference: Col. John Wise of England and Virginia (1617-1695), His
> Ancestors and Descendants, by Jennings Cropper Wise, Page 27 (i.e.,
> Chart of the Family of Wise of Devonshire).
>
> Since I have been trying for years ( to no avail) to find our GA/SC WISE
> connection to the Accomack Co., VA Wises, I have collected and compiled
> quite a bit of info. on the Accomack Co. Wises in my database. Below is
> an Ahnentafel Report on Colonel John Wise I (Jr.) (1617-1695), which
> shows his English ancestry as documented in the Jennings Cropper Wise's
> book (see above reference). If anyone has anything other than this,
> please inform the list and (please-please-please) cite your primary
> source of information.
>
> Please note that the subject Colonel JOHN WISE (1617-1695) is documented
> as the most likely son of JOHN WISE SR. and his wife ??? (NAME UNKNOWN),
> of Sydenham & Cuddleston, England; and the paternal grandson of Sir
> Rychard Wise, Knight, and his wife ??? (NAME UNKNOWN) of Sydenham,
> England. As far as it is known at this time, and unless someone has
> some definite proof, the subject is NOT the son of his cousin JOHN WISE
> (d. 1676) and his wife SUSANNAH PRESTWOOD, of Totness, England (as
> someone recently indicated) ... who is related, but proven to be of
> another branch of the English WISE family
>
> Unless someone has definite proof to the contrary, I feel it is
> important that we stick to the extensive research and findings of
> Jennings Cropper Wise ... otherwise we'll find that we will muddle-up
> the VA/Engand Wise family bloodlines much worse than what they are
> presently.
>
> For the benefit of all, I will also send out a separate/subsequent Email
> containing what I have on the DESCENDANTS of Colonel JOHN WISE I (JR.)
> and his wife HANNAH SCARBROUGH.
>
> John F. Wise
> Montgomery, AL
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ahnentafel Report-Ancestors of John Wise I (Jr.), English Colonel of VA
> Militia, The
> Virginia Immigrant:
>
> Generation No. 1
>
> 1. John Wise, Jr., English Colonel of Militia, "VA Immigrant", born 16
> Nov 1617 in
> Birmingham, Warwickshire, England; died 19 Nov 1695 in "Clifton"
> Plantation, Accomack Co., English Province of VA. He was the son of 2.
> John Wise, Sr., Esq., of Sydenham & Cudleston and 3. ???. He married
> Hannah Scarburgh, Lady Abt. 1637 in North Walsham, Norfolk Co., England.
> She was born Bet. 1620 - 1625 in Westminister, St. Martin-in-the-Fields,
> London, England, and died Bef. Oct 1693 in "Clifton" Plantation,
> Chesconnessex, Accomack Co., English Province of VA. She was the
> daughter of Edmund Scarburgh, Sr., English Captain, Judge and Hannah
> Butler.
>
> Generation No. 2
>
> 2. John Wise, Sr., Esq., of Sydenham & Cudleston, born in Wise House of
> Sydenham, Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Cudleston,
> Plymouth, Mount Wise, Devonshire, England. He was the son of 4.
> Sir Rychard Wise, Knight, of Sydenham, England and 5. ???. He married 3.
> ??? in
> Plymouth, Devonshire, England.
>
> 3. ???, born in Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Cudleston,
> Plymouth, Mount Wise, Devonshire, England.
>
> Children of John Wise and ??? are:
>
> 1 i. John Wise, Jr., English Colonel, "VA Immigrant", born 16 Nov 1617
> in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England; died 19 Nov 1695 in "Clifton"
> Plantation, Accomack Co., English Province of VA; married Hannah
> Scarburgh, Lady Abt. 1637 in North Walsham, Norfolk Co., England.
>
> ii. William Wise, of Gilsdon, born Abt. 1619 in House of Cudleston,
> Devonshire, England; died in date and place unknown, VA?; married ???.
>
> Generation No. 3
>
> 4. Sir Rychard Wise, Knight of Sydenham, born in Wise House of
> Sydenham, Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Cudelston,
> Devonshire, England. He was the son of 8. James Wise, of Sydenham and 9.
> Alicia Dynham, of Wortham. He married 5. ??? in Devonshire, England.
>
> 5. ???, died in Devonshire, England.
>
> Child of Sir Rychard Wise and ??? is:
>
> 2 i. John Wise, Sr., Esq., of Sydenham & Cudleston, born in Wise House
> of Sydenham, Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Cudleston,
> Plymouth, Mount Wise, Devonshire, England; married ??? in Plymouth,
> Devonshire, England.
>
> Generation No. 4
>
> 8. James Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England. He was the
> son of 16. John Wise, of Sydenham and 17. Mary Chudleigh, of Ashdon. He
> married 9. Alicia Dynham, of Wortham in place unknown, Devonshire,
> England.
>
> 9. Alicia Dynham, of Wortham, born in Wortham, Norfolk, England; died in
> Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England. She was the daughter of 18.
> John Dynham and 19. ???.
>
> Children of James Wise and Alicia Dynham are:
>
> 4 i. Sir Rychard Wise, Knight of Sydenham, born in Wise House of
> Sydenham, Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Cudelston,
> Devonshire, England; married ??? in Devonshire, England.
>
> ii. John Wise, Sr., of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; married Alicia Harris, of Hayne; born in Hayne,
> England.
>
> iii. Sir William Wise, of Sydenham
>
> iv. George Wise, of Sydenham
>
> v. Phillipa Wise, of Sydenham
>
> vi. Margery Wise, of Sydenham
>
> Generation No. 5
>
> 16. John Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England. He was the
> son of 32. Oliver Wise, of Sydenham, Sir and 33. Margaret de Tremayne,
> Lady. He married 17. Mary Chudleigh, of Ashdon in Ashdon, Devonshire,
> England.
>
> 17. Mary Chudleigh, of Ashdon, born in House of Ashdon, Ashdon,
> Devonshire, England. She was the daughter of 34. James Chudleigh, of
> Ashdon and 35. ???.
>
> Children of John Wise and Mary Chudleigh are:
>
> i. Anne Wise, of Sydenham
>
> 8 ii. James Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; married Alicia Dynham, of Wortham in place unknown, Devonshire,
> England.
>
> iii. Nicholas Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; died in Lower Accomack Co., English Province of VA;
> married ???; died in Lower Accomack Co., VA.
>
> 18. John Dynham, born in Wortham, Norfolk, England. He married 19. ???.
>
> 19. ???
>
> Child of John Dynham and ??? is:
>
> 9 i. Alicia Dynham, of Wortham, born in Wortham, Norfolk, England; died
> in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England; married James Wise, of
> Sydenham in place unknown, Devonshire, England.
>
> Generation No. 6
>
> 32. Oliver Wise, of Sydenham, Sir, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England. He was the son of 64. John Wise, of Sydenham and
> 65. Thomaszine Fulford, of Fulford. He married 33. Margaret de Tremayne,
> Lady.
>
> 33. Margaret de Tremayne, Lady She was the daughter of 66. John de
> Tremayne, Lord and 67. ???.
>
> Child of Oliver Wise and Margaret de Tremayne is:
>
> 16 i. John Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; married (1) Mary Chudleigh, of Ashdon in Ashdon, Devonshire,
> England; married (2) Dorothy Leigh; married (3) Anne Matthew in date and
> place unknown.
>
> 34. James Chudleigh, of Ashdon, born in Ashton, England. He married 35.
> ???.
>
> 35. ???
>
> Child of James Chudleigh and ??? is:
>
> 17 i. Mary Chudleigh, of Ashdon, born in House of Ashdon, Ashdon,
> Devonshire, England; married John Wise, of Sydenham in Ashdon,
> Devonshire, England.
>
> Generation No. 7
>
> 64. John Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England. He was the
> son of 128. Thomas Wise, of Sydenham and 129. Margaret Britt. He married
> 65. Thomaszine Fulford, of Fulford in Devonshire, England.
>
> 65. Thomaszine Fulford, of Fulford, born in House of Fulford,
> Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England. She was the daughter of 130. Baldwin Fulford, Lord.
>
> Children of John Wise and Thomaszine Fulford are:
>
> 32 i. Oliver Wise, of Sydenham, Sir, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; married Margaret de Tremayne, Lady.
>
> ii. Alice Wise, of Sydenham, married ??? Russell.
>
> 66. John de Tremayne, Lord, born in Collacombe, England. He married 67.
> ???.
>
> 67. ???
>
> Child of John de Tremayne and ??? is:
>
> 33 i. Margaret de Tremayne, Lady, married Oliver Wise, of Sydenham, Sir.
>
> Generation No. 8
>
> 128. Thomas Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England. He was the son of 256. John Wise, of Sydenham and
> 257. Joane Millaton, of Meavy. He married 129. Margaret Britt.
>
> 129. Margaret Britt, born in Slottiscomble, England. She was the
> daughter of 258. Robert Britt.
>
> Child of Thomas Wise and Margaret Britt is:
>
> 64 i. John Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; married Thomaszine Fulford, of Fulford in Devonshire, England.
>
> 130. Baldwin Fulford, Lord, born in Of Great Fulford, England.
>
> Child of Baldwin Fulford, Lord is:
>
> 65 i. Thomaszine Fulford, of Fulford, born in House of Fulford,
> Devonshire, England; died in Wise House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; married John Wise, of Sydenham in Devonshire, England.
>
> Generation No. 9
>
> 256. John Wise, of Sydenham, born in House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; died in House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England. He was the son
> of 512. Sir Thomas Wise, of Thrushelton and 513. Allreda de Trevage. He
> married 257. Joane Millaton, of Meavy in Devonshire, England.
>
> 257. Joane Millaton, of Meavy, born in House of Meavy, Meavy,
> Devonshire, England. She was the daughter of 514. John Millaton, of
> Meavy and 515. ???.
>
> Child of John Wise and Joane Millaton is:
>
> 128 i. Thomas Wise, of Sydenham, born in Wise House of Sydenham,
> Devonshire, England; married Margaret Britt.
>
> 258. Robert Britt, born in Of Slottiscombe, England.
>
> Child of Robert Britt is:
>
> 129 i. Margaret Britt, born in Slottiscomble, England; married Thomas
> Wise, of Sydenham, England.
>
> Generation No. 10
>
> 512. Sir Thomas Wise, of Thrushelton, born in Wise House of Thrushelton,
> England. He was the son of 1024. Serlonius Wise, of Thrushelton and
> 1025. ???. He married 513. Allreda de Trevage.
>
> 513. Allreda de Trevage
>
> Child of Sir Thomas Wise and Allreda de Trevage is:
>
> 256 i. John Wise, of Sydenham, born in House of Sydenham, Devonshire,
> England; died in House of Sydenham, Devonshire, England; married Joane
> Millaton, of Meavy in Devonshire, England.
>
> 514. John Millaton, of Meavy, born in House of Meavy, Meavy, Devonshire,
> England. He married 515. ???.
>
> 515. ???
>
> Child of John Millaton and ??? is:
>
> 257 i. Joane Millaton, of Meavy, born in House of Meavy, Meavy,
> Devonshire, England; married John Wise, of Sydenham in Devonshire,
> England.
>
> Generation No. 11
>
> 1024. Serlonius Wise, of Thrushelton, born in Wise House of Thrushelton,
> England. He was the son of 2048. William Wise, of Greston, Sir and 2049.
> Ela de ViPonte. He married 1025. ???.
>
> 1025. ???
>
> Child of Serlonius Wise and ??? is:
>
> 512 i. Sir Thomas Wise, of Thrushelton, born in Wise House of
> Thrushelton, England; married Allreda de Trevage.
>
> Generation No. 12
>
> 2048. William Wise, of Greston, Sir, born Abt. 1200 in Wise House of
> Greston, England; died Abt. 1225. He was the son of 4096. Henry Wise, of
> Greston and 4097. ???. He married 2049. Ela de ViPonte.
>
> 2049. Ela de ViPonte
>
> Child of William Wise and Ela de ViPonte is:
>
> 1024 i. Serlonius Wise, of Thrushelton, born in Wise House of
> Thrushelton, England; married ???.
>
> Generation No. 13
>
> 4096. Henry Wise, of Greston, born in Wise House of Greston, England. He
> was the son of 8192. Serlonius Wise, of Greston. He married 4097. ???.
>
> 4097. ???
>
> Child of Henry Wise and ??? is:
>
> 2048 i. Sir William Wise, of Greston, born Abt. 1200 in Wise House of
> Greston, England; died Abt. 1225; married Ela de ViPonte.
>
> Generation No. 14
>
> 8192. Serlonius Wise, of Greston, born in Wise House of Greston,
> England. He was the son of 16384. William Wise, of Greston and 16385.
> ???.
>
> Children of Serlonius Wise, of Greston are:
>
> 4096 i. Henry Wise, of Greston, born in Wise House of Greston, England;
> married ???.
>
> ii. Sir John Wise, born in Greston, England.
>
> iii. Oliver Wise, born in Wise House of Greston, England.
>
> Generation No. 15
>
> 16384. William Wise, of Greston, born in Wise House of Greston, England.
> He was the son of 32768. Oliver Wise, of Greston and 32769. ???. He
> married 16385. ???.
>
> 16385. ???
>
> Child of William Wise and ??? is:
>
> 8192 i. Serlonius Wise, of Greston, born in Wise House of Greston,
> England.
>
> Generation No. 16
>
> 32768. Oliver Wise, of Greston, born Bef. 1066 in Wise House of Greston,
> England. He married 32769. ???.
>
> 32769. ???
>
> Child of Oliver Wise and ??? is:
>
> 16384 i. William Wise, of Greston, born in Wise House of Greston,
> England; married ???.

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