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From: "Tom" <>
Subject: 1839 Old Lutheran Emigration
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:34:57 -0700


All of the passenger lists for the ships used in the 1839 emigration have now been transcribed and
posted at the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild website. The total number of "Old Lutherans" who
arrived in America in 1839 was 1084. This number is lower than the number reported by Iwan (1239),
but this is not surprising as Iwan's data was created from records of people who had intended to
emigrate in 1839. Not all of those that intended to emigrate actually did emigrate in 1839 (some
may have emigrated later and some may have changed their mind).

The ships are as follows:

Ship Franklin: Liverpool, England to Philadelphia - manifest is dated 19 August 1839. This ship
carried only two "Old Lutheran" passengers, Heinrich Von Rohr and his daughter, Julia.
http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/franklin18390819.html

Brig Caroline: Hamburg, Germany to New York - manifest is dated 27 August 1839. This ship carried
the Silesian "Old Lutheran" emigrants who Grabua refused to allow them to travel with his Pommern
emigrants. Some of the Silesian emigrants did travel with their Pommern brothers on the other five
ships. The ship contained 84 passengers. Iwan reports that 72 Silesians split with Pastor Grabau.
Passengers 1-70 do appear to be Silesians and of these, 69 have been identified. It is not known if
passengers 71-84 are "Old Lutheran" emigrants or just other passengers on their way to America. The
passenger list does not indicate if anyone died or was born on this voyage but a letter by Meyer
(passenger #45) indicates that one child died on August 9th and was buried at sea and that there was
one birth on August 23rd.
http://immigrantships.net/v7/1800v7/caroline18390827.html#Puscheck

Ship Alfred: Liverpool, England to New York - manifest is dated 5 September 1839. There are 181
passengers and all appear to be "Old Lutheran" emigrants. The passenger list does not indicate if
anyone died or was born on this voyage.
http://immigrantships.net/v5/1800v5/alfred18390905.html

Ship Britannia: Liverpool, England to New York - manifest is dated 5 September 1839. There are 250
passengers listed of which four died on the voyage and three births were recorded separately. They
all appear to be "Old Lutheran" emigrants.
http://immigrantships.net/v5/1800v5/britannia18390905.html

Ship Republic: Liverpool, England to New York - manifest is dated 5 September 1839. There are 237
passengers and all appear to be "Old Lutheran" emigrants. The passenger list indicates there were
three deaths and no births on this voyage.
http://immigrantships.net/v5/1800v5/republic18390905.html

Ship Georgiana: Liverpool, England to New York - manifest is dated 6 September 1839. There are 197
passengers listed. Passenger numbers 1-119 and 196-197 appear to be "Old Lutheran" emigrants.
Passenger numbers 120-195 appear to be Irish/English emigrants that include the surnames: McCormick,
Bailey, O'Mara. Mahonn, McKinney, McAunff, Donohue, Fleming, Walsh, Hesoy, McDermott, Gallagher,
Murphy, Simpson, McMahon and others. I do not believe these 76 passengers can be counted as "Old
Lutherans". The passenger list does not indicate if anyone died or was born on this voyage.
http://immigrantships.net/v5/1800v5/georgiana18390906.html

Ship Echo: Liverpool, England to New York - manifest is dated 19 September 1839. There are 218
passengers and most appear to be "Old Lutheran" emigrants. The passenger list does not indicate if
anyone died or was born on this voyage. However, Ernst Schmidt (believed to be passenger #183)
wrote a letter containing the following: "there were 220 Lutherans (from Thuringia, Saxony,
Pomerania and Silesia), 20 sailors and another five passengers...the first passenger died on the
ship, a Pomeranian of 24 years. He was buried at sea the same day....More became sick on the warm
Gulf Stream, especially the Pomeranians. Two adults and three children died before we reached New
York." Thus, 5 Lutherans died on the voyage. Using Schmidt's numbers there would have been 225
passengers minus 5 = 220. Assuming that those who died were not included in the passenger list then
the number of Lutherans at the start of the voyage would have been 218 with 213 reaching NY.
http://immigrantships.net/v5/1800v5/echo18390919.html

The number of "Old Lutherans" that departed = 2 + 84 + 181 + 250 + 237+ 121+ 218 = 1093. The number
of births on the voyage was 1 + 3 = 4. The number of deaths on the voyage was 1 + 4 + 3 + 5 = 13.
Thus, the total number of "Old Lutherans" arriving in America is 1093 + 4 - 13 = 1084. This number
may be high by the 13 passengers that are not confirmed "Old Lutherns" on the Brig Caroline
(passengers 71-84).

Tom


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